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New (OLD) Guy Checking in
1 year 1 month ago #63245
by SnowmanTX
New (OLD) Guy Checking in was created by SnowmanTX
Howdy all!
Just signed up today after watching hours of ScannerDanner videos on YouTube! I'm an old DIY guy who has been wrenching on anything with a motor since I got my first Honda Trail 50 in 1975. I spent 4 years as a USAF mechanic working on helicopters, and I was a copier repairman for a couple of years at the end of the 80's before copiers became computerized. I still do all my own auto work but now that everything is computerized I am here to expand my knowledge.
Looking forward to the journey!
Ted (SnowmanTX)
Just signed up today after watching hours of ScannerDanner videos on YouTube! I'm an old DIY guy who has been wrenching on anything with a motor since I got my first Honda Trail 50 in 1975. I spent 4 years as a USAF mechanic working on helicopters, and I was a copier repairman for a couple of years at the end of the 80's before copiers became computerized. I still do all my own auto work but now that everything is computerized I am here to expand my knowledge.
Looking forward to the journey!
Ted (SnowmanTX)
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1 year 1 month ago #63253
by Noah
"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
Replied by Noah on topic New (OLD) Guy Checking in
Welcome to the fold, thanks for joining
"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
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1 year 1 month ago #63303
by SnowmanTX
Replied by SnowmanTX on topic New (OLD) Guy Checking in
Thank you Noah, glad to be here. I've got 5 cars to maintain for my family, so there is always something to work on. I've got a couple of Honda V6's that utilize VCM (variable cylinder management) that I want to understand better.
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1 year 1 month ago #63319
by Noah
"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
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They ruined a prolific engine platform with that system.
The J series V6 has been a powerful, dependable engine family for decades.
For what ever reason, the VCM equipped engines have poor oil sealing rings, or maybe it's the pistons themselves.
Now when one comes in for a misfire complaint, I can almost guarantee it's cylinder #2 with an oil fouled plug.
My wife's Pilot is the previous generation without VCM and has 225,000 miles on the original engine. The VCM ones I see start eating enough oil to foul plugs around 110,000 miles.
From my past foarays into these things, the rocker assembly is kind of like inside out V-TEC. Instead of using oil pressure to lock rocker arms together to engage a larger cam lobe for more power, it instead unlocks rocker arms to disable cylinders.
I think 1-2-3 on the rear head can be disabled, as well as #4 on the front head.
The J series V6 has been a powerful, dependable engine family for decades.
For what ever reason, the VCM equipped engines have poor oil sealing rings, or maybe it's the pistons themselves.
Now when one comes in for a misfire complaint, I can almost guarantee it's cylinder #2 with an oil fouled plug.
My wife's Pilot is the previous generation without VCM and has 225,000 miles on the original engine. The VCM ones I see start eating enough oil to foul plugs around 110,000 miles.
From my past foarays into these things, the rocker assembly is kind of like inside out V-TEC. Instead of using oil pressure to lock rocker arms together to engage a larger cam lobe for more power, it instead unlocks rocker arms to disable cylinders.
I think 1-2-3 on the rear head can be disabled, as well as #4 on the front head.
"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
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1 year 1 month ago #63324
by SnowmanTX
Replied by SnowmanTX on topic New (OLD) Guy Checking in
Hi again Noah,
There are a couple guys who've made a cottage industry selling VCM disabling devices for the J series motors. I learned about them and installed one (the VCM Muzzler) at 180,000 miles. The system works by using a resistor between the ECT sensor and the computer so the PCM thinks the engine hasn't warmed up yet. This prevents the PCM from activating the VCM at all. Here is a link to the forum that explains it all. This is great info for all the techs on here who may run into one of these Honda J series engines. They are in many Honda and Acura models.
www.odyclub.com/threads/piston-rings-mis...ested_reply_top_post
I was very impressed with how clean my cylinders were when I pulled my motor apart at 294k. I could still see crosshatched lines in the cylinders. The insides of the cats looked new as well.
Ted
There are a couple guys who've made a cottage industry selling VCM disabling devices for the J series motors. I learned about them and installed one (the VCM Muzzler) at 180,000 miles. The system works by using a resistor between the ECT sensor and the computer so the PCM thinks the engine hasn't warmed up yet. This prevents the PCM from activating the VCM at all. Here is a link to the forum that explains it all. This is great info for all the techs on here who may run into one of these Honda J series engines. They are in many Honda and Acura models.
www.odyclub.com/threads/piston-rings-mis...ested_reply_top_post
I was very impressed with how clean my cylinders were when I pulled my motor apart at 294k. I could still see crosshatched lines in the cylinders. The insides of the cats looked new as well.
Ted
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1 year 1 month ago #63330
by Noah
"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
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Yesterday was VCM day, lol.
Got to work yesterday and there was a VCM Odyssey with 275,000 miles,
Got to work yesterday and there was a VCM Odyssey with 275,000 miles,
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