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Example of how VSS affects Idle Control?

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7 years 8 months ago #17538 by SailorBob
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On page 20-2 in the idle air control section it mentions that the vehicle speed sensor is one of the inputs for IAC repositioning. Are there any case studies showing how a faulty VSS might affect idle quality?

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7 years 7 months ago #17591 by chief eaglebear
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hi good question i was just kinda brushing up on idle controls i believe that an rpm signal is needed from crank sensor circuit which gives a more precise data pid of how fast engine is actually turning over

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7 years 7 months ago #17622 by SailorBob
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OK, but I don't understand what that has to do with the VSS?

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7 years 7 months ago #17625 by dkggpeters
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I see where you are headed and am curious myself.

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7 years 7 months ago #17656 by Noah
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I believe the PCM would use VSS input to effect IAC on deceleration to prevent stalling.

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7 years 7 months ago #17676 by SailorBob
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To me the book seemed to imply that it was used at idle also, but maybe I'm reading it wrong.

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7 years 7 months ago - 7 years 7 months ago #18016 by graywave
Replied by graywave on topic Example of how VSS affects Idle Control?
Maybe if it was some how shorted, not sure if a shorted VR sensor will create a problem like that but maybe a Hall Effect speed sensor using the 5v ref could? Maybe someone can correct me.

I am also thinking of possible AC voltage coming from the alternator on vesicles using VR sensors for VSS since VR sensors create their own AC voltage wave. To much ac voltage could trick the computer into thinking the car is moving, therefore the idle air control system could raise the idle. This could be an effect regardless if there is a IAC Valve or if idle is controlled by the Electronic Throttle Body alone.

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