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4 Runner 4wd Inop, what am I missing
- Johng17050
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It looks like closing D3 detection switch will cause the relay to power the 4 wd VSV for 4wd operation. the switch is good (tried a new one and tested both new and old )
If I jumper ground to either side of D3 detection switch it works. That black white wire has 12v even disconnected. How, why, where is it coming from? We added a ground to that wire attached to the transfer case and it still does not operate. I know that does not make sense.
So what am I missing on this diagram? what is the grey rectangle at the bottom just after j9 connector? quite a bit about this system has me scratching me head like the shorting bar.
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- borntoroll
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Which "balck-white" wire has 12v constant? If it is the white-black one (going to d3-d4-d5) then it can get 12v from D5 when in park or neutral. So if you provide ground to the D3 pin 1 does it work as intended? This can mean you don't have good ground to the D3.
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Like borntoroll, I'm very interested in the 12V constant on black/white wire (or is it actually white/black?). It's voltage from D3-4-5 that's looking for a ground, and can't find one. When you jumpered ground to both sides of D3, where was the other end of the jumper connected? Was it attached to the transfer case, too? I'm asking because I believe you're looking at an open ground, and adding a ground SHOULD have worked.
I think it'd be worth adding a ground to pin 1 of D3 again, but this time run some jumpers over to battery negative. This way, you know you're getting a solid connection. If everything now works, then you can go chasing the open ground.
EDIT: Just saw the iATN thread . Glad to see they're thinking the same thing!
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- Johng17050
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It works if i back probe pin 1 on d3 and apply a ground to it but not if i use a test light to ground. I scabbed a wire to ground 6 inches from pin 1 and it does not work! Someone suggested that the wire my be broken at the connector which is gonna make me kick myself.
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Johng17050 wrote: the bw wire at pin 1 of d3 switch when disconnected has power with key on. will not light a test light
It works if i back probe pin 1 on d3 and apply a ground to it but not if i use a test light to ground. I scabbed a wire to ground 6 inches from pin 1 and it does not work! Someone suggested that the wire my be broken at the connector which is gonna make me kick myself.
Oooooh yeah, I like the broken wire suggestion! Or, more like a partially broken wire/high resistance/green corrosion. This would explain how there could be 12V at the white/black wire, BUT it won't light a test light connected to B+ or B-. The load causes a voltage drop, which would also explain why the additional ground 6" from pin 1 doesn't change anything.
Thanks Tyler. This one is humbling to say the least. I wish i was able to get the logic for the system it would answer some questions for sure. Without it and with our mutual friend Scanner Danner's help I was able to nail that it is a control side problem and "be the switch" but there are some issues with this diagram that have me guessing and thats never good.
No problem, I'm eager to hear what you find! It's always unsettling when you see computers involved in a circuit, but don't know their role


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- JeffBirt
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If the AWD output of the ECU remains at 12V then you may have a bad ECU or an input to the ECU to tell it that it should switch to 4WD mode is not being made. Switches D3 and D4 would seem to tell the ECU that the transfer case is in a 4WD mode.
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