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2017 dodge ram 3.6. P0172. P0175. Help

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10 months 1 week ago #67492 by gerber
Hello everyone.     I need some help with this codes.      
parts that someone change. 
All 4 denso. 02 sensors. 
 Champion spark plugs.  
air filter. 
Pcv valve. 
what i check already:
fuel presure.   60psi. Engine running ( manual gauge installed )
   Vacuum leak.  (Pass)
injector pulse.   ( all. From 920 to 1200. ).  
 Purge solenoide    (Pass). Not stuck open )
➡️➡️➡️ my map sensor. Shows 32 psi.  And barometric pressure.  49.    Voltage 4.5-5 v ignition on    And 1-2v engine running Are this out of spec?
my stft1 and 2.   Stuck on -33 
my ltft 1 and 2.   Stuck  on 0
 any input or advice will help.  Thank you so much.  ⬇️⬇️⬇️ some pid.  Pictures.   
 
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10 months 1 week ago #67510 by gerber
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  Any body that can give me. A direction where to. Check.    Thank u.  ? 

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10 months 1 week ago #67516 by Noah
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Do the fuel trims get any better with higher rpm?
I don't understand the results of the fuel injector test you describe, could please explain in greater detail?

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10 months 1 week ago #67519 by gerber
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Hello.   What i mean is the injector width pulse.   This is what shows.  
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10 months 1 week ago #67520 by gerber
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Yes  only stft get better.  And drops to 5-0  When i go wide open throttle. Then goes back to -33     But ltft.  They dont move. They stuck in 0

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10 months 1 week ago #67574 by gerber
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 I did a ecu reset. And now. The. Ltft are stuck at -33 and stft.  Are working. From -8 to +7   And i take the injectors out to. Check the spraying pattern.  And they look even.  Im lost *****do you guys think.   There is any way. That the ecm need update. To fix. This. Codes. ?????

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10 months 1 week ago #67592 by Monde
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There is a list of things that can cause a rich condition: Bad Maf, ect, Iat, MAP, TPS sensors and so on. Leaky fuel injectors, bad O2 and/or Air/fuel sensors, leaky purge valve, bad EGR valve, stuck closed fuel pressure regulator, bad thermostat and many other things.
Have you checked all of these besides the o2 and the purge valve?

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10 months 1 week ago #67598 by gerber
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Hello yes  i check map sensor  itfs 5v  switch on engine off.   And running is 1.4-1.9 v.  
 I remove the injectors   With tthe fuel rrail and crank it.  And. They look. Even. I will left a picture of the pids. … no map on this 3.6.  I check temperature sensor.    And air temperature sensor.   All 4 02 sensors are new.  Denso brand.   Got new spark plug  champion brand.    New air filter.  
 Fuel pressure is 60.   Compression look. Even. I will left a picture.  (Is a noise wave form thats the clean i can get ). And on the last picture. I not sure what its show. The red pids. For the throttle  body.  ➡️do i have to worry  About this??……Any  a idea.  What i can check i will appreciate ?
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10 months 6 days ago - 10 months 6 days ago #67603 by bills4065
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In a situation like this, the first thing I would confirm is my oxygen sensors. Are the upstreams wide band or narrow band sensors? Some one may have put a narrow band sensor upstream where a wideband is supposed to be or a wide band upstream were a narrow band is supposed to be. that is where I would start. Do you happen to know what was the reason for changing all 4 oxygen sensors?
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10 months 6 days ago #67604 by Monde
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I don't know much about the Throttle Inlet Pressure pid. From what I have read, it provides ambient pressure reading to the engine computer. I would investigate it further if I were you.

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9 months 4 weeks ago #67802 by gerber
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 Alright guys.   So.  I end it up.  This nightmare.  And here i go    This truck come from auction and someone swap a 2020 3.6 engine. In to. This 17 truck.  Everything looks the same.  But they are not.  Thats. Why  the rich codes.  So. At this point.  I have to let it. Go.   And let the customer deal. With it.   Because i dont. Think. Swapping another ecm will fix. This.   Thank you so much. For you. Help. ??
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9 months 4 weeks ago #67818 by Noah
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That's good information, no wonder it was such a challenge. Thanks for the update

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