Lacking engine performance - 2010 Volvo S40 T5
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A little background on my issue: I have a 2010 Volvo S40 T5; 2.5l 5 cylinder turbo that seems to be down on power. Not substantially, but noticeably lacking. Just for giggles, I plugged in my code reader and saw a pending P0133 code; B1S1 - slow response. It was just pending and I never saw a CEL. The next morning, as I was leaving for work, I plugged my reader in and it was gone (and hasn’t come back since). From a couple videos of Danner’s, he’s said that with this code, 99/100 times it’s just a faulty sensor and to change it. I believe that, but I don’t want to blow $180 on a new sensor. I want to PROVE it’s the sensor.
Here’s where I’m at.
I’ve been using the Torque Pro app to monitor different PIDs and here’s what I’ve found;
-The car uses a wideband sensor up front.
-AFR during a WOT run shows a changing signal from ~14:1-15.2:1 and only sometimes showing a 13.5:1 (whereas my Volvo S60 reads 12.5:1 on WOT).
-Rear o2 is pegged lean at WOT.
-Fuel pressure at idle is 43.5psi, drops to ~40 on WOT, then slowly climbs after a few seconds.
-Load PID is showing 100% during WOT like it should.
What I’m finding odd is that the car doesn’t seem to be running off of JUST the fuel map during WOT because with the front o2 unplugged:
-Rear o2 goes full rich (up to 0.8v) during WOT.
-Car seems to perform noticeably better, but still not 100%.
-Fuel pressure rises to 50+psi much faster.
Am I missing something? In every video I’ve seen, and from what I’ve found online, the o2s shouldn’t be used during WOT. Why would my rear o2 read lean with the sensor plugged in, then rich with it unplugged? Have I already proved that it’s just a faulty sensor that isn’t performing like it should? Any insight and direction would be appreciated. Thanks!
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As for the fuel pressure, both my S40 and S60 have the same return-less system. The S60 will increase fuel pressure as soon as it sees a high load. I’m talking 55+ psi that will settle back down when I come back to normal driving/idle. The S40 should also do the same, but isn’t doing it as quickly. But to add into the mix, all of it seems to be better when the B1S1 is unplugged.
I’m sorry if any of that is confusing. I’m trying to lay it out as clear as I can. Let me know if I need to clarify anything else!
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RPM
MAF g/s
Absolute Load
Equivalence Ratio
Commanded Equivalence Ratio
Upstream O2 Current and/or Voltage
Downstream O2 Voltage
Loop Status
Short + Long Term Trims
In every video I’ve seen, and from what I’ve found online, the o2s shouldn’t be used during WOT.
For a long time, that was absolutely true! But I've seen many new-er vehicles with upstream AFR's that will remain in closed loop during WOT. Power enrichment is still generated, but is managed by the ECM. It's not universal, but common enough that open loop power enrichment cannot be assumed anymore.
You may be onto something. Another WOT run with the above listed PIDs would help clear that up. For example, if your upstream AFR shows a rich equivalence ratio during a WOT run while your downstream shows lean, I'd tend to suspect the upstream AFR. Looking at Absolute Load and the MAF g/s under the same conditions would help to either highlight or eliminate an air measurement issue.Why would my rear o2 read lean with the sensor plugged in, then rich with it unplugged? Have I already proved that it’s just a faulty sensor that isn’t performing like it should?
If you do another WOT scan data capture, try to do so from a roll, through first gear and into second, up through third if possible. Highway on-ramps are ideal.
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I'm pretty amateur at working with .CSV files, but I managed to get a couple good graphs out of it. From what I can see, it would seem that the ECM is using normal 14.7: AFR through first gear, and only adds power enrichment through second and third gear. That may be why you're sometimes seeing 14.7:1 during wide open. Here's a graph of the plugged in data, with the EQ ratios and the downstream O2:
It looks like there's a delayed response, but I think we're actually looking at a slow data capture rate. Partly because Torque is kinda slow, mostly Volvo scan data is slow to begin with. But the ECM does command power enrichment, and it's getting it.
The unplugged data shows mostly the same, just without the upstream AFR:
I did note that in the unplugged capture, there's a definite progression in the amount of power enrichment commanded. Not sure if that's a function of the unplugged sensor or not.
Initially, I'm not worried about air measurement or fuel delivery, as it would seem the ECM is capable of achieving the kind of power enrichment it's looking for under load.
What does that mean for your fault code? It's tough to judge sensor reaction times due to the slow data rate. It's been my experience that, while not always stated in service info, the ECM is actually using the downstream O2 sensor to judge the performance of the upstream. Maybe kinda counterintuitive, but many AFR/O2 set ups work this way.
As long as there are no exhaust leaks ahead of the downstream sensor, I'd be tempted to replace both with OE or OEM.
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