Ford PATS key issue, pretty sure I screwed it up....
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So I hooked up the handy dandy scanner tool to my 2013 Ford Taurus and proceeded to erase the programmed keys so I could add the new ones, that's when I started to regret this decision. Only one key successfully programmed, the doors lock/unlock and the remote start work but the PATS security function is blocking the function of the Start button (I assume in simple terms).
Do I have any options here or does this car need a tow to the dealer? My fear is I really screwed up this time, thanks for any suggestions.
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we bought the car used and only received one key
If all keys have been erased, Ford requires two different keys to re-program. (two copies of the same (cloned) key will not work). Do you have two different OEM keys?
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I can use the remote start through the one programmed key fob but it times out at almost the same time as the PATS pre-programmed delay so I can't enter the programming mode within the PATS menu.
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I looked into what service info says to do in this situation, and I found this:
The third note is the relevant bit. Basically, there's still a way to gain security access through IDS (or probably FJDS, too). You could look up the tear tag or PCM part number through motorcraftservice.com.
As a last chance, you could always try Forscan. It'll do PATS programming, as well as allow you to start a session based on the PCM part number. I can't say I've ever tried using it in this context, but it could be worth a shot.
forscan.org/download.html
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Forscan is another option but I was kinda hoping I could do it all through the Launch scanner tool. Thanks again.
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If you put either key in the transceiver slot in the glove box, does the ignition then come on?
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To answer your question Tyler that didn't seem to help. I'll try the ForScan forum and sse what they think over there, kinda running out of options...
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You're welcome to try anyway, of course. You can also buy a J2534 device and a two day subscription to FJDS ($50) and get it done that way.
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At a loss really, pretty sure its something I messed up just not sure where/how its jacked up. I connected the scanner again and ran the PATS PCM connection, waited the 10 minutes and it came back with failed security access to BCM (or something close to that).
Still have one key fob that will lock/unlock and remote start but do nothing else.
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I don't want to jump in and derail the conversation, but it may be the scan tool. I've had two Fords recently, of which I know I had gained security access before, give me a similar message using my Verus Edge.. I connected the scanner again and ran the PATS PCM connection, waited the 10 minutes and it came back with failed security access
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Like Tyler mentioned, with a pass through device and Ford service subscription, you should have no problem, but that's not exactly a cheap tool if you plan on using it to program one key.
Maybe there's a mobile key programming service, or mobile diagnostics and programming guy you can contact instead of towing it to the dealership if that is out of the question.
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Using forscan there is a function to test the readability/programmability of each individual key that's inserted. There a post about on the forum somewhere.
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