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Pull-Down Hall Effect Sensor

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5 months 2 weeks ago #63768 by ksat22
When this type of sensor is not in it's pulled-down state (i.e. not triggered), is the 5V that is found on the signal wire sourced from the sensor's 5V voltage supply wire?

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5 months 1 week ago #63778 by Paul P.
It is sourced from the PCM. The Sensor will Pull-Down this voltage when it is triggered.

Quick check, Key ON, sensor unplugged, there should be 5 volts present on the signal, or there is a problem, open, short, pin fitment or PCM.

A pull-up sensor is sourced from the 5v ref, so when this sensor is triggered it pulls the signal wire up to the reference voltage.

I hope this helps.

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5 months 1 week ago #63781 by ksat22
Replied by ksat22 on topic Pull-Down Hall Effect Sensor
Thank you and, yes, the explanation helps a lot!

I was watching several YT repair vids where sensor bypass tests were being performed- that is, ground was applied via a jumper to the sensor signal wire- and I wasn't sure if the sensor needed to be plugged in so it could provide the steady 5V or if the voltage was sourced from somewhere else.

Just 1 more question, if you don't mind: With a pull-up sensor setup, instead of supplying 5V like in the pull-down design, does the PCM apply ground to the signal wire instead?

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5 months 1 week ago #63786 by Paul P.
 

 that is, ground was applied via a jumper to the sensor signal wire- and I wasn't sure if the sensor needed to be plugged in
 

This "by-passing" is done on three wire sensors ( ie. Crank or CAM Position) to set either Circuit High/or Low codes.  This is often done to prove circuit integrity and that the PCM is doing its job and the said part is bad.  By-pass testing is performed (usually) with the circuit unplugged to isolate the sensor.  Depending on sensor design, Pull-up, or Pull-Down you can ground the signal and pull it down like a pull-down sensor would OR jump the 5v reference the signal to pull-up the signal like a pull-up sensor would do.

With a pull-up sensor setup, instead of supplying 5V like in the pull-down design, does the PCM apply ground to the signal wire instead?

The PCM continually supplies a ground to a three wire sensor, the sensor when triggered pulls-up the voltage on the signal or it allows the 5 volt reference voltage a path to the signal wire.  With this sensor design there will be "Zero" volts on the signal unplugged.

This is why it is very important to do the "unplug-it" test to verify the voltage level on the signal wire.

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